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Westwingnut's Thread of Boredom

Discussion in 'Debaters' started by westwingnut, Dec 22, 2016.

  1. PepperAnn

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    From that article:

    Really??? So now he's Nostradamus?
     
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    A Colorado Legislator Just Tried To Justify Japanese Internment.

    The problem with this person's line of thinking isn't that he is trying to defend internment. It's that he thinks of Japanese Americans as "them", not as Americans.

    By the way, Japanese Americans in Hawaii--where they were actually in a location where they could damage the war effort--were not sent to the camps. They were too ingrained into the economy to be removed. Only Japanese Americans on the west coast were sent. So the argument that internment was a necessity of war is false.
     
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    Well, I was wrong. Nunes was acting nefariously. Or at least stoogiously.

    Nunes apologizes for going directly to White House with monitoring claims -- Nancy Pelosi calls the Intelligence Committee chairman a 'stooge for the president of the United States.'
     
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    Now the Republican house will do what ever it takes to make sure the ACA goes under.
     
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    They should all stop acting like children and maybe, just this once, do what's best for the country. Fix the things that are wrong with Obamacare and make it better for everyone. I think the first step is to disallow any special health plans they vote for themselves so they live under the same rules as the rest of us.
     
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    Politico: Poll: Majority of Americans want independent commission to investigate Trump-Russia ties

    Links to a long series of poll results from Quinnipiac University:

    Question 56 is the relevant one: Do you support or oppose an independent commission investigating the potential links between some of Donald Trump's campaign advisors and the Russian government?

    Democrats: 88% Yes - 9 % No
    Independents: 70% - 25%
    Republicans: 36% - 60%

    So even one-third of Republicans now support an independent inquiry.

    Even if Trump remains in office, the Cult of Personlaity is coming to an end.

    And to comment on a discussion from the main Trump thread, I would also prefer President Pence to both Trump and Hillary.





     
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    I'm iffy on Pence.
    When I voted Obama for his second term, it really wasn't because I liked him. It was because I did not care for Romney bringing his religion into the government. It now seems Pence is doing the same.
    And I stand firm on that. You can not govern a country, under a certain religion, that has so many different kinds of religion. Our forefathers put that little clause in there for a reason.
    But Pence does seem to be level headed, as far as some of the things he does. At least he hasn't insulted our allies. Praised Putin. Or tweeted about crowd size.
     
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    Pence is OK in my book. He comes from a deeply red state, so he had to push a conservative agenda. He was slow to adopt needle exchange when there was an outbreak of AIDS among drug users. He signed an extremely homophobic religious rights bill, but had to annul it when Indiana came under withering criticism from both corporate interests and civil rights groups.

    Point is, he will move towards the center if there is enough pressure from the general public. I am concerned that if he becomes president he will sign legislation that will allow parents of gay children to send their kids to Christian camps to get beat up, but that's small potatoes compared to the idiocy and corruption of Trump.

    Besides, Pence is much more ready to speak out against racism, bigotry and hate crime than Trump.
     
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    Napolitano told friends he was on Trump's Supreme Court shortlist

    Napolitano was the Fox News legal analyst who spread false rumor on-air that Trump was spied on by British intelligence. This rumor was then repeated by Sean Spicer, and subsequently denied by the Brits.

    Greta van Susteran was the only unbiased analyst at Fox News, and she's moved on.
     
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    Bernie Sanders would have made a great President.
     
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    I disagree about Bernie, I think he would have made a terrible president. He was way too divisive, and way too far to the left. Policies that far left simply don't work in anything but the very short term. There's no way I could have voted for Bernie.
     
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    They work in Canada, and have done for the better part of 150 years.
     
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    For wonks:

    How a secret Freedom Caucus pact brought down Obamacare repeal

    Going into Friday, I really believed that Trump would be able to get his own caucus on board. I was thinking about how Lincoln got the conservative wing of the Republican party to vote for the 13th Amendment, or how Reagan got enough Democrats to vote for some of his proposals. They didn't back down and they got their deals made.

    Not so with Trump, it appears.
     
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    Which leads to the next story:

    Steve Bannon Thought He Could Bully Republicans On Health Care. He Couldn’t.
    Trump does read opinion polls and he does care about his approval rating. They are measurements of his brand, which is the most important thing to him.

    If Trump wants to save his presidency he should dump Bannon as soon as possible. That would be a silver lining to the health care debacle.
     

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