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Time for Trump to go

Discussion in 'Debaters' started by Morgotha, Jul 20, 2015.

  1. Lindigo

    Lindigo Well-Known Member

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    I hear Trump wanted Guilliani because he didn't want to hear any more commentary on how attorneys keep turning him down. But as far as giving the investigation a push, that's just nonsense to placate Trump. This "limited" contribution will not pan out, and Trump will still be in need of experienced federal crime attorneys.
     
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    Have you ever been in an Alzheimer’s ward, and listen to those demented patients talk to one another? They all over talk one another, and never listen.
    That’s the picture I got, when I heard he hired Guilliani.

    Also, it’s possible he hired him so Giuliani can claim client/attorney privilege,when he is questioned about knowing about the release of the stolen emails before they were released.


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  3. Lindigo

    Lindigo Well-Known Member

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    Wow. Now that is clever. I wonder if the privilege could apply since it didn't exist at the time.

    No, I never have been on an Alzheimer's unit. It sounds like it would break my heart.
     
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    Morgotha Well-Known Member

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    The California Democratic Party is NOT endorsing Sen. Feinstein for re-election for not being left-wing enough? That's saying something! I wonder what sort of craziness she's going to come up with to "prove" how left-wing and enlightened she is to the party base?

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    The California Democratic Party will not endorse Sen. Dianne Feinstein’s re-election bid this year, with delegates at the party’s annual convention giving the majority of votes to her top primary challenger, progressive State Sen. Kevin de Leon.

    De Leon got 54 percent of the vote, compared to 37 percent for the more moderate Feinstein, according to results released Sunday. But neither Democrat will receive the state party endorsement because they failed to reach the 60 percent threshold."

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...doesnt-endorse-feinstein-re-election-bid.html
     
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    Morgotha Well-Known Member

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    Flynn Jr. wasn't responsible enough to be on Trump's team. What does that say about how much you should trust his tweets?

    From the article:

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    Then there is the fact that Flynn Jr. has a past history of just saying stuff. One example: He was removed from the Trump transition team after he sent a series of tweets fomenting the so-called "Pizzagate" conspiracy.

    Add it all up and the most likely scenario here is that Flynn Jr. was just talking on Twitter without any real evidence to back up his claims about his dad."
     
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    Morgotha Well-Known Member

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    Probably

    If Pence did lie about knowing, I’m sure Mueller already knows. And if he did, I doubt anything comes of it.


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    This whole thing is ridiculous. I'm not a fan of Elizabeth Warren for different reasons, but people in America have very mixed ethnic backgrounds. She never used Native American identity to gain access to college over anyone else, so it shouldn't be a big deal to anyone since it wasn't used for preferential treatment.
     
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    I have Native American in my family tree, even though I don't look it at all. Honestly, what is the BFD? This is a Trump thing, so why is her own party using it?

    The Democrats better get their shit together.
     
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    HUD Secretary Ben Carson to propose tripling rent for some low-income Americans receiving federal housing subsidies:

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...ral-housing-subsidies/?utm_term=.2148ca4a5d75

    Housing and Urban Development Secretary Ben Carson on Wednesday will propose tripling the amount the poorest households are expected to pay for rent as well as encourage those receiving housing subsidies to work, according to the administration’s legislative proposal obtained by The Washington Post.

    The move to overhaul how low-income rental subsidies are calculated would affect more than 4.5 million families relying on federal housing assistance. The proposed legislation would require congressional approval.

    Tenants generally pay 30 percent of their adjusted income toward rent or a public housing agency minimum rent — which is capped at $50 a month for the poorest families. The administration’s legislative proposal sets the family monthly rent contribution at 35 percent of gross income or 35 percent of their earnings working 15 hours a week at the federal minimum wage. Under the proposal, the cap for the poorest families would rise to approximately $150 a month, three times higher than the current minimum.

    The Trump administration has long signaled through its budget proposals and leaked draft legislation that it seeks to increase the rents that low-income tenants pay to live in federally subsidized housing.


    Housing and Urban Development Secretary Ben Carson has mainly kept a low profile at HUD. Here’s some of what he has been up to. (Victoria Walker/The Washington Post)

    The White House budget proposal for the 2019 fiscal yearindicated that it would “encourage work and self-sufficiency” across its rental assistance programs. The reforms would require adults who are able to work to “shoulder more of their housing costs and provide an incentive to increase their earnings,” budget documents said.

    HUD also seeks to change the deductions that could be considered when determining a tenant’s rent, eliminating deductions for medical and child-care costs.

    “When we are in the middle of a housing crisis that’s having the most negative impact on the lowest income people, we shouldn’t even be considering proposals to increase their rent burdens,” said Diane Yentel, president of the National Low Income Housing Coalition.

    Carson plans to lay out the administration’s plans in a press call about an hour before a Wednesday afternoon House Financial Services subcommittee hearing on rent restructuring.

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    Because hey, those massive tax breaks for the rich aren't going to pay for themselves. Next thing you know they'll be bringing back debtors prisons and bonded labor.

    VOTE THEM OUT.
     
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  13. Morgotha

    Morgotha Well-Known Member

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    Sounds reasonable to me. $50 per month MAXIMUM rent? That's not subsidized housing, that's FREE housing. The new maximum would be $150 bucks a month. That seems mighty fair at a time when the Federal minimum wage is $7.25

    Under the new plan, someone at the minimum wage would be working 20 hours *per month* for their rent. I'd bet that's still a lot less than most people who AREN'T in government housing pay.

    Maybe they should make it like an auction, and give the housing to the poor who are willing to pay the most. I'd bet a lot of those people living in California tent cities would give an arm to get in to a government housing project with a rent of $150 a month.
     
  14. Stealth

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    That guy is actually running as an independent for her Senate seat.
     
  15. Stealth

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    Overall the current HUD system isn't bad in terms of income guidelines. Also over 50 percent of the people in low income housing are elderly or disabled anyway.

    The greatest challenge for the housing providers is cracking down on fraud, people that are working but not reporting the income. But even that isn't to the extent you would think because they do have a centralized system that tracks new hires and income, so most of those people are eventually caught and have to pay back what they didn't report.

    People are just once again looking for scapegoats.
     
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  16. Morgotha

    Morgotha Well-Known Member

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    So looking at his record, how does a man like this get to be and *remain* the physician of the President of the United States?!

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    (CNN)Rear Adm. Ronny Jackson, President Donald Trump's pick to head the Department of Veterans Affairs, was allegedly "abusive" to his colleagues, loosely handled prescription pain medications and was periodically intoxicated, even crashing a car once while drunk, according to allegations detailed in an explosive document compiled by Senate Democrats.

    The document, written by Democratic staff on the Senate Veterans Affairs Committee, lists a range of allegations detailed by what they say are 23 current and former colleagues of Jackson.
    Lawmakers have not yet substantiated these details and are investigating them further.

    Among the most damaging allegations: Jackson was drunk and "wrecked a government vehicle" while at a going-away party. It also says that "on at least one occasion" Jackson "could not be reached when needed because he was passed out drunk in his hotel room.""

    https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/25/politics/ronny-jackson-allegations-document/index.html
     
  17. Morgotha

    Morgotha Well-Known Member

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    A lawyer pleading the 5th. That can't be good...

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    (CNN)Michael Cohen, the longtime personal attorney for President Donald Trump, filed court papers Wednesday indicating he would assert his Fifth Amendment rights against self-incrimination regarding his involvement in a hush money deal involving porn star Stormy Daniels and the President.

    Cohen cited FBI raids of his residence, office and hotel room and the seizure of "various electronic devices and documents in my possession," in his filing in US District Court in Los Angeles.
    "Based upon the advice of counsel, I will assert my Fifth Amendment rights in connection with all proceedings in this case due to the ongoing criminal investigation by the FBI and US Attorney for the Southern District of New York," Cohen said.
    Cohen filed the declaration as part of an effort to have a civil lawsuit filed by Daniels put on hold. The judge in that case said last week that he needed to hear from Cohen directly before deciding on that request."

    https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/25/politics/michael-cohen-fifth-amendment/index.html
     
  18. Lindigo

    Lindigo Well-Known Member

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    Ronny Jackson has withdrawn his nomination. 'Bout time.
     
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  19. Lindigo

    Lindigo Well-Known Member

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    Trump said something dismissive about Cohen, about how Cohen barely did any of his legal work and Trump didn't have anything to do with Cohen's business dealings. I.e., it sounds like Trump is hanging Cohen out to dry.

    Go get him, Cohen.
     
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  20. Lindigo

    Lindigo Well-Known Member

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    Here we go. I finally found the language:



    By QUINT FORGEY
    04/26/2018 09:02 AM EDT
    Updated 04/26/2018 09:38 AM EDT

    President Donald Trump on Thursday appeared to acknowledge that he was aware that his longtime personal attorney Michael Cohen had cut a deal with porn star Stormy Daniels after previously denying any knowledge of the "hush money" payment.

    The president also tried to distance himself from Cohen, who is currently under federal criminal investigation because of his business dealings.

    “Let me just tell you, Michael is in business — he is really a businessman, a fairly big business, as I understand it,” Trump told the hosts of "Fox & Friends" in a phone interview. “I don't know his business, but this doesn't have to do with me. Michael is a businessman. He has got a business. He also practices law.”

    “A percentage of my overall legal work — a tiny, tiny little fraction,” Trump said. “But Michael would represent me and represent me on some things. He represents me like with this crazy Stormy Daniels deal, he represented me.”

    Earlier this month, Trump said he did not know about the $130,000 payment Cohen has acknowledged making to Daniels during the 2016 campaign in exchange for her silence about an alleged sexual interaction with Trump.

    Asked by reporters aboard Air Force One whether he knew about the payment Cohen made to Daniels, Trump replied: “No.”

    While he said on Thursday that Cohen "represented" him in the Daniels scandal, Trump insisted he is “not involved” in a pending civil lawsuit brought against Cohen by Daniels that seeks to void the $130,000 “hush money” deal.

    Trump said he is represented by many attorneys — “so many attorneys you wouldn't even believe it” — and that Cohen’s involvement in his legal affairs is extremely limited.

    Cohen on Wednesday indicated that he planned to assert his Fifth Amendment rights not to testify in connection with the civil suit.

    https://www.politico.com/story/2018/04/26/trump-michael-cohen-distance-555127
     

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