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Time for Trump to go

Discussion in 'Debaters' started by Morgotha, Jul 20, 2015.

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    Morgotha Well-Known Member

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    Well, that didn't take long. Now Republican extremists are viciously heckling Democratic representatives. Two wrongs don't make a right.

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    House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi was confronted by a mob during a campaign stop in Coral Gables, Fla., on Wednesday, with protesters cursing at her and calling her a communist.

    The incident was caught on camera, showing Pelosi calmly entering Florida Democratic House candidate Donna Shalala’s headquarters as she gets surrounded by the protesters. She did not engage with them.

    “Look at Nancy Pelosi right here – f---ing communist. Get the f--- out of here. F--- you and your f--king Democrats,” the protesters shouted in both English and Spanish while carrying anti-communist signs.

    “You don’t belong here,” one person was also heard yelling. “Socialism sucks,” said another.

    The video of the confrontation was uploaded on YouTube and titled “Nancy Pelosi was heckled at a Miami Restaurant by Trump Supporting Cuban Americans,” but it actually occurred outside the campaign stop for Shalala, The Washington Post reported.

    The protest was organized by Nelson Diaz, the chairman of the Republican Party in Miami-Dade County, the Post reported. Some protesters reportedly wore signs of Proud Boys, a notorious right-wing group that is often accused of participating in violent scuffles with their opposition."

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/pr...-with-expletives-during-florida-campaign-stop
     
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    Maybe he wants to nuke Russia to eradicate his Russian debts.
     
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    This now gives Russia the freedom to bomb.


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    Trump regime aiming to eradicate transgender people from existence:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/21/us/politics/transgender-trump-administration-sex-definition.html

    "For the last year, health and human services has privately argued that the term “sex” was never meant to include gender identity or even homosexuality, and that the lack of clarity allowed the Obama administration to wrongfully extend civil rights protections to people who should not have them."


    So what would be the point of this? Appeasing Christian fundamentalist law, there would be NO other reason for it. The "Christian" version of Sharia law.

    This is that piece of shit PENCE.
     
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    I should imagine that it would behoove this community to make sure they get to the polls and vote in the midterms to protect their rights.
     
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    Oh! It's not just a pact between the two of us? Does this implicitly endorse their right to nuke anyone?
     
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    A Supreme Court decision and lots of lower court decisions based upon it call this out as illegal discrimination. Of course, now with Kavanaugh, that could change soon.

    Lots of good comments on this one that encourage me to think no one is going to stand for this. (Of course this is the NYTimes readership, so I would have to check out comments on The Washington Times, also.)

    This sums it up for me:

    Kathy Lollock, Santa Rosa, CA
    "....eyes defining transgender out of existence"? Am I reading this correctly? If left up to Trump, he would rule all Muslims - except Saudis, all Black and Brown-skinned, all the gay, all women for that matter, all immigrants - need I go on? - out of existence. What on earth is wrong with this man? Is he so desperate in keeping a hypocritical, so-called "Christian" base as supporters that he will assume the role of a god, a downright evil one akin to Beelzebub himself?

    The transgender are human beings, for heaven's sake! No man, no single entity whether it be religion or the government can steal from anyone else WHO they are. This is so, so upsetting. Certainly there must be many more Americans than the followers of such heinous discrimination as espoused by Mr. Trump. Where are we? It is time for us to stand up for our fellow man or woman. If we are silent, we are complicit in such an atrocious ideology.
     
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    It's a pact between the 2 of us. But it was to prevent Russia from shooting ground to air missiles at Europe.
     
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    I've been trying to avoid the Saudi news because I don't want my brain to have the gruesome details, so maybe this story is already out there and I have been skipping it. It matches up with a conspiracy notion I completely invented on my own, although my imaginary wonderings were a bit worse. Anyway, I don't know what there is to back this up, but here's one possible reality:

    A House Democrat on the intelligence committee is suggesting that the White House and top aide Jared Kushner maintained a “hit list” of dissidents for the Saudi kingdom to assassinate.

    Rep. Joaquin Castro of Texas, who sits on the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, said the supposed list included murdered Saudi dissident/journalist Jamal Khoshoggi.

    The Saudi Arabia ruling family admitted Friday its operatives had killed Mr. Khoshoggi inside its consulate in Istanbul during what they described as a brawl.

    Mr. Castro, appearing on CNN, floated the conspiracy that President Trump’s White House target Mr. Khoshoggi in alliance with Crown Prince Muhammed bin Salman, the country’s 33-year-old de facto ruler.

    “Let me get to the point that is most disturbing right now,” Mr. Castro said. “The reporting that Jared Kushner may have with U.S. intelligence delivered a hit list, an enemy’s list to the crowd prince, MbS, in Saudi Arabia and that the prince then may have acted on that and one of the people that he took action against is Mr. Khoshoggi.”

    The CNN anchor then pushed back, saying the network had not reported such a White House plot.

    The “reporting” to which Mr. Castro referred is likely a March 18 article in The Intercept online news site. It said Mr. Kushner provided bin Salman top-secret U.S. intelligence on the names of royal family members who opposed him.

    Mr. Kushner through his attorney flatly denied that any such exchange took place.

    White House Press Secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders again denied The Intercept story in a tweet.

    Mr. Kushner, the president’s son-in-law and point man on Middle East peace, has formed a close relationship with bin Salman as he seeks the oil kingdom’s endorsement of a Palestine-Israel peace plan. Saudi Arabia is also an arch enemy of Iran, which the Trump administration is confronting with new sanctions.

    Mr. Castro is a vehement critic of the Trump administration who backs the Christopher Steele dossier. Republicans consider the Democratic Party opposition research dossier as a hoax, filled with lies about Trump supporters.

    Saudi Arabia has long been an ally of the U.S. through both Democratic and Republican administrations. In September 2016, President Barack Obama offered the Saudis a $115 billion arms deal, the largest in the two countries’ 70-year alliance.


    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/oct/20/joaquin-castro-suggests-khoshoggi-trump-hit-list/

    The facts that Trump has bragged he could murder someone on Fifth Avenue and no one would care and that this Congress has done nothing to stop his political grotesqueries is what lead me to privately consider that this is exactly what the Trumps would do: Try out one murder as a test case using someone who is not a full citizen and who is taken away from American soil before the hit, and, icing on the cake, is a Washington Post employee.

    Trump's denial that a murder occurred and his attempts to invent a random "some other guy" defense also feed my private conspiracy explanation. Nothing is beyond the pale.
     
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    C'mon, TED...

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    I thought we dusted this whole thing because it's obviously complicated, and somewhat subjective since not all native people speak with the same voice.She's gonna believe what she's gonna believe. Doesn't necessarily make her nutty, just uninformed about tribal matters along with about 98% of everybody else who isn't indigenous. Sounds like her intentions were good but the execution of such backfired.
     
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    I'm not calling her nutty because she's claiming to be a Native American, I'm calling her nutty because she's claiming she's revealing her DNA test results in order to "rebuild trust in the government through transparency".

    What does "transparency" as it applies to government actions have to do with Warren's DNA? Why would my trust in government be determined by Warren's DNA? To think anyone would believe that her real reason for releasing her DNA test is in order to "rebuild trust in the Government through transparency IS, IMO, nuttier than something Trump would come up with.
     
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    Another bad day for the reputable porn lawyer:

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    Michael Avenatti -- the lawyer who became famous representing porn star Stormy Daniels, later served as counsel for a woman whose claims of a gang rape ring run by a Supreme Court nominee were quickly cast into doubt and who is now mentioned as a possible 2020 Democratic presidential candidate -- was ordered to pay nearly $5 million to an attorney at his former firm, a California judge ruled Monday.

    The judge at the hearing in Los Angeles County Superior Court – which Avenatti did not attend -- said Avenatti must pay $4.85 million because he personally guaranteed a settlement with attorney Jason Frank in a lawsuit over back pay."

    https://www.foxnews.com/us/michael-...n-back-pay-to-attorney-at-his-former-law-firm
     
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    Nuttier than Trump? Seriously? Holy Christ, do you ever read some of the things he's said? Lol....*gotta stop laughing* ok... at least she knows and can use the word transparency.
     
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